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For All We Know (1934 song)
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| “For All We Know” | |
|---|---|
| Song | |
| Published | 1934 by Leo Feist, Inc. |
| Composer(s) | J. Fred Coots |
| Lyricist(s) | Sam M. Lewis |
“For All We Know” is a popular song published in 1934, with music by J. Fred Coots and lyrics by Sam M. Lewis. Popular versions in 1934 were by Hal Kemp (vocal by Skinnay Ennis) and Isham Jones (vocal by Joe Martin).
Background
There are alternative verses but the main lyrics start: “For all we know we may never meet again…”.
Other artists’ recordings
- 1958 Billie Holiday 1958 Lady in Satin album by Columbia Records
- The version by Dinah Washington reached No. 88 on the chart in 1962.
- A version by The Spinners in 1965 gave it a more contemporary sound and was included on the 1967 LP The Original Spinners.
- The Donny Hathaway version from the LP Roberta Flack & Donny Hathaway (Atlantic, 1972) has become one of the standout versions of the song.
- A version by jazz pianist Bill Evans was recorded in his last studio album We Will Meet Again (Warner Bros. Records, 1979).
- Jane Ira Bloom included the song in her 2013 album Sixteen Sunsets.
- Jennifer Hudson sang a rendition of the song at the All Star Game tribute to Gianna and Kobe Bryant in 2020.
- The song has also been recorded by a host of artists, including: Nina Simone,
- The Andrews Sisters, Aretha Franklin, Chet Baker, Crystal Gayle, Dinah Washington, Doris Day, Joanie Sommers, Fran Jeffries, Bette Midler, Nat King Cole, Rod Stewart,
- June Christy, Ruben Studdard, Frankie Valli, Caleb Kelly, Will Downing, Rosemary Clooney, Long John Baldry, Ken Dodd
- Alicia Keys
- and Clint Eastwood.
Song in popular culture
- Graham Kennedy sang a few bars live as his curtain call outro song to end each last season episode of The Graham Kennedy Show (1972-75).
- The Rosemary Clooney version is heard over the closing credits of Dan Ireland‘s 2005 British film Mrs. Palfrey at the Claremont. Rupert Friend performs the song in the movie.
- The Bette Midler version was featured in the 1991 film For the Boys.
- A cover by Abbey Lincoln was featured prominently in the Gus Van Sant film Drugstore Cowboy (1989).
- An instrumental version,
- and a Barbra Streisand vocal version, are featured in the 1991 film The Prince of Tides.
- The Billie Holiday version is featured in the 1995 film Forget Paris.
- Johnny Hartman‘s version was featured in the Clint Eastwood movie The Bridges of Madison County (1995).
- A cover by Billy Porter and Our Lady J was featured in a 2018 episode of Pose.
For All We Know (1970 song)
“For All We Know” is a soft rock song written for the 1970 film Lovers and Other Strangers, with music by Fred Karlin and lyrics by Robb Wilson (Robb Royer) and Arthur James (Jimmy Griffin), both from the soft rock group Bread. It was originally performed, for the film’s soundtrack, by Larry Meredith and won the Academy Award for Best Original Song in 1971.
The best known version of the song is by American pop duo the Carpenters which reached No. 3 on the US Billboard Hot 100 chart and No. 1 on the US Billboard Easy Listening chart in 1971.
The song was also a hit for Shirley Bassey at the same time in the United Kingdom. It has since been covered by various artists, including Petula Clark.
The Carpenters version
| “For All We Know” | |
|---|---|
| One of artworks for US vinyl single | |
| Single by Carpenters | |
| from the album Carpenters | |
| B-side | “Don’t Be Afraid” |
| Released | January 15, 1971 |
| Recorded | Late 1970 |
| Genre | Pop |
| Length | 2:33 |
| Label | A&M 1243 |
| Songwriter(s) | Fred Karlin, Robb Wilson, Arthur James |
| Producer(s) | Jack Daugherty |
| Carpenters singles chronology | |
| “Merry Christmas Darling“ (1970) “For All We Know“ (1971) “Rainy Days and Mondays“ (1971) | |
Richard Carpenter of Carpenters heard the song during an evening of relaxation at the movies while on tour. He decided it would be ideal for the duo. It became a hit for them in 1971, reaching No. 3 on the Billboard Hot 100 singles chart, spending seven weeks in the Top 10, and No. 1 for three weeks on the US easy listening chart.
According to Richard, the intro was originally played on guitar. They had run into Jose Feliciano in a restaurant, who was a big fan of theirs and wanted to play on one of their records. They went into the studio and the intro was devised by Feliciano, using his nylon string acoustic guitar. The next day, though, Richard got a phone call from Feliciano’s manager, demanding that he be removed from the recording. Richard essentially did as requested and replaced Feliciano’s guitar intro with that of Earle Dumler’s oboe. The other instruments heard on the song were recorded by session musicians later known as the Wrecking Crew.
When the original song was nominated for an Academy Award, the Carpenters were not allowed to perform it at the ceremony because they had not appeared in any film. At their request, the song was performed by British singer Petula Clark.
In 1972, Richard and Karen appeared on Tom Jones’s London Bridge Special, where they performed “For All We Know”. This version was not released to the public until 2000, with the release of the compilation The Singles: 1969–1981.
Personnel
- Karen Carpenter – lead and backing vocals
- Richard Carpenter – backing vocals, piano, Hammond organ, Wurlitzer electric piano, orchestration
- Joe Osborn – bass guitar
- Hal Blaine – drums
- Earle Dumler – oboe
Charts
Weekly charts
| Chart (1971) | Peak position |
|---|---|
| Australia | 10 |
| Canada Top Singles (RPM) | 5 |
| Canada Adult Contemporary (RPM) | 1 |
| UK Singles (OCC) | 18 |
| US Billboard Hot 100 | 3 |
| US Easy Listening (Billboard) | 1 |
| US Cash Box Top 100 | 6 |
| US Radio Active Airplay Singles (Cash Box) | 1 |
Year-end charts
| Chart (1971) | Rank |
|---|---|
| Australia | 75 |
| Canada Top Singles (RPM) | 69 |
| US Billboard Hot 100 | 35 |
| US Adult Contemporary (Billboard) | 8 |
| US Cash Box Top 100 | 36 |
Note
- Released as a double A-side with “Superstar” in the UK
Shirley Bassey version
The song became a hit in the UK for Welsh singer Shirley Bassey in 1971, at the same time as the Carpenters’ version, with the two songs competing for chart strength. Bassey’s version peaked at No. 6 during a 24-week chart run. It also reached No. 20 in Ireland.
Petula Clark version
Petula Clark gave a heart-rending version of the song during her show at the Albert Hall on February 6, 1983, in tribute to Karen Carpenter, who had died two days before.
Nicki French version
| “For All We Know” | |
|---|---|
| |
| Single by Nicki French | |
| from the album Secrets | |
| Released | 1995 |
| Length | 3:11 |
| Label | Bags of FunLove This |
| Songwriter(s) | Fred Karlin, Robb Wilson |
| Producer(s) | Mike StockMatt Aitken |
| Nicki French singles chronology | |
| “Total Eclipse of the Heart“ (1995) “For All We Know“ (1995) “Did You Ever Really Loved Me” (1995) | |
| Music video | |
| “For All We Know” on YouTube | |
English singer Nicki French released a cover of “For All We Know” in 1995, which was included on her debut album, Secrets (1995). The song peaked at No. 31 in Scotland, No. 42 on the UK Singles Chart and No. 89 in Australia. A music video was also produced to promote the single.
Critical reception
Steve Baltin from Cash Box wrote, “French follows up her surprise dance hit cover of Bonnie Tyler’s “Total Eclipse Of The Heart” by giving the same treatment to the Carpenters’ “For All We Know”. Sounding as if Donna Summer could’ve done it, “For All We Know” has a blatant disco feel. Look for this to be a club smash that crosses over to appeal to many of the same fans that made “Total Eclipse..” a smash.”
Charts
| Chart (1995) | Peak position |
|---|---|
| Australia (ARIA) | 89 |
| Scotland (OCC) | 31 |
| UK Singles (OCC) | 42 |
| UK on a Pop Tip Club Chart (Music Week) | 2 |
For All We Know Covers
- Dave Monk
- Maureen McGovern
Lovers and Other Strangers (Film)
| Lovers and Other Strangers | |
|---|---|
| |
| Directed by | Cy Howard |
| Screenplay by | Joseph Bologna David Zelag Goodman Renée Taylor |
| Based on | Lovers and Other Strangers (play) by Joseph Bologna and Renée Taylor |
| Produced by | David Susskind |
| Starring | Beatrice Arthur Bonnie Bedelia Michael Brandon Richard Castellano Bob Dishy Harry Guardino Marian Hailey Anne Jackson Cloris Leachman Anne Meara Gig Young |
| Cinematography | Andrew Laszlo |
| Edited by | David Bretherton Sidney Katz |
| Music by | Fred Karlin |
| Production company | ABC Pictures |
| Distributed by | Cinerama Releasing Corporation |
| Release date | August 12, 1970 |
| Running time | 104 minutes |
| Country | United States |
| Language | English |
| Budget | $2.5 million |
| Box office | $7.7 million |
Lovers and Other Strangers is a 1970 American romantic comedy film directed by Cy Howard, adapted from the 1968 Broadway play by Renée Taylor and Joseph Bologna. The cast includes Richard S. Castellano, Gig Young, Cloris Leachman, Anne Jackson, Bea Arthur, Bonnie Bedelia, Michael Brandon, Harry Guardino, Anne Meara, Bob Dishy, Marian Hailey, Joseph Hindy, and, in her film debut, Diane Keaton. Sylvester Stallone was an extra in this movie.
The film was nominated for three Academy Awards (it won the Academy Award for Best Original Song), and was one of the top box-office performers of 1970. It established Richard S. Castellano as a star (receiving an Oscar nomination for his performance) and he and Diane Keaton were cast in The Godfather (1972).
The Oscar-winning song, “For All We Know“, was composed by Fred Karlin, with lyrics by Bread‘s Jimmy Griffin and Robb Royer. It was famously covered by The Carpenters.
Lovers and Other Strangers was originally distributed by Cinerama Releasing Corporation. The film was released on VHS in 1980 by Magnetic Video, but was soon deleted. The Magnetic Video release was a collector’s item for many years, but the film was eventually re-released on VHS by CBS/Fox Video in the 1990s. It is now available on DVD from MGM Home Entertainment, and on Blu-ray by Kino-Lorimer.
Taylor and Bologna followed up with their second screenplay the following year, Made for Each Other in which they also starred.
Plot
Mike Vecchio and Susan Henderson are engaged to be married. Mike wants to call off the wedding, arguing that it would be hypocritical for them to get married when they have already been living together for one year and a half. Mike relents on calling off the wedding after learning that Susan went to her first Halloween party dressed as a bride.
Mike’s brother Richie and his wife Joan have grown “incompatible” and are considering divorce. Mike’s Italian-American parents, Frank and Bea, are relentlessly trying to dissuade Richie and Joan from divorcing.
Cast
- Beatrice Arthur as Bea Vecchio
- Bonnie Bedelia as Susan Henderson
- Michael Brandon as Mike Vecchio
- Richard Castellano as Frank Vecchio
- Bob Dishy as Jerry
- Harry Guardino as Johnny
- Marian Hailey as Brenda
- Joseph Hindy as Ritchie Vecchio
- Anne Jackson as Kathy
- Diane Keaton as Joan Vecchio
- Cloris Leachman as Bernice Henderson
- Anne Meara as Wilma
- Gig Young as Hal Henderson
- Anthony Holland as Donaldson
- Bob Kaliban as Hotel Clerk
- Amy Stiller as Flower Girl / Carol
- Charlotte Jones as Johnny’s Mother
- Morton Marshall as Father Gregory
- Conrad Bain as Priest In Confessional (uncredited)
- Connie Mason as Wedding Guest (uncredited)
- Jerry Stiller as Jim (uncredited)
- Sylvester Stallone as Groomsman (uncredited)
Release
Home media
The vinyl LP soundtrack of the film was released by ABC Records in 1971, catalogue #ABCS 0C 15. It has not been released on compact disc. The film was released by MGM on DVD on July 6, 2004 in full-screen format. The film was released on Blu-ray by KL Studio Classics on March 19, 2019 in anamorphic format with an HD master from a 4K scan of the original camera negative, and includes an audio commentary by film historian Lee Gambin. The aspect ratio for the Blu-ray is 1.85.1 (i.e., the screen dimensions of the original film).
Reception
Box office
The film was popular at the box office, earning $7.7 million in gross rentals in North America. It recorded an overall profit of $790,000.
Accolades
| Award | Category | Nominee(s) | Result | Ref. |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Academy Awards | Best Supporting Actor | Richard S. Castellano | Nominated | |
| Best Screenplay – Based on Material from Another Medium | Renée Taylor, Joseph Bologna, and David Zelag Goodman | Nominated | ||
| Best Song – Original for the Picture | “For All We Know“ Music by Fred Karlin; Lyrics by Robb Royer and Jimmy Griffin | Won | ||
| Golden Globe Awards | Best Motion Picture – Musical or Comedy | Nominated | ||
| Laurel Awards | Best Picture | 9th Place | ||
| Top Male Supporting Performance | Richard S. Castellano | 4th Place | ||
| New York Film Critics Circle Awards | Best Supporting Actor | Nominated | ||
| Writers Guild of America Awards | Best Comedy – Adapted from Another Medium | Renée Taylor, Joseph Bologna, and David Zelag Goodman | Nominated | |
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